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Joining Copper

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:42 pm
by n-strike
Hello, I was wondering...is there any other way to join copper besides using solder? This will probably make me look retarded, but...would PVC primer and PVC cement work? Is there any sort of adhesive or sealant that I could use besides solder to put a pneumatic gun together? If there is, (which I hope there will be) be expecting a monstrosity to be created!!!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:49 pm
by SpudUke5
The all knowing, all great, answer to everthing, everywhere,

EPOXY

da, dada, dum!
n-strike wrote:This will probably make me look retarded, but...would PVC primer and PVC cement work?
you answered your own question.[/quote]

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:11 pm
by trollhameran
use compression fittings, they just need a couple of spanners to fit

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:16 pm
by Maniac
Epoxy is probably the next best thing as LikimysCrotchus5 said in most hardware stores they usually sell a epoxy made especially for joining copper pipe. Oh and why cant you solder?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:17 pm
by trollhameran
i would have said compression fittings were next best thing because they are meant to take high pressures

Re: Joining Copper

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:30 pm
by MaxuS the 2nd
n-strike wrote:This will probably make me look retarded, but...would PVC primer and PVC cement work?
That just made my day!

What's wrong with solder?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:31 pm
by trollhameran
maybe he doesnt have the tools for soldering

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:37 pm
by MaxuS the 2nd
A blowtorch, flux and solder..?

I've never heard of a soul without these neccessary spudding tools.
Seriously, it'll probably cost <£10 ($20) for the whole lot. But I do know how cheap some people can be, try living in the Uk.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:37 pm
by Brian the brain
Compression fittings served me well the first couple of years!

Galvanised fittings and pipes are a better option when it comes to reliability.
But nothing beats the look of soldered copper cannons!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:31 pm
by trollhameran
maxus: people who live in the uk have to be cheap because theres always some sort of rule stopping you from getting money

I have to agree with Brian, soldered fittings do look better, but if your not to worried about looks, or your planning on covering the fittings then compression is great

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:41 pm
by n-strike
Sorry for not replying earlier, I was just busy. Um...I don't have the tools for soldering. And I don't have a lot of money right now, so I can still make a copper gun, but without the solder. So epoxy is the best thing to use? Can it withstand high pressures? Does anyone have a copper cannon that they have a link of right now? Sorry for all the questions, I just wanted to make sure there is not going to be a loud kablooie in my face, just like my previous cannon. That one scared that shat outta me!

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:41 pm
by Necrosis
We actually have special wire that can WELD copper. :roll:

But it's unlikely that you have this too.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:52 pm
by SpudFarm
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/42mm-pi ... 12595.html

simple but yet damn powerful copper gun.
this is soldered though but the plumber at your hardware store solders pipes for you if you show him how it is going to look and get the parts (witch is easy in a hardware)

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:22 pm
by STHORNE
Necrosis wrote:We actually have special wire that can WELD copper.
Welding Rod? Braising Rod?

Also, If you don't want to solder anything or use messy sealants/adhesives, then I would suggest threading your copper fittings with a tap & die set and using Teflon tape. It's easier and allows you to change something (take apart) whenever you need.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:14 pm
by Carlman
You can get a glue called JFC (just for copper) that when done corectly can hold pressures exceeding that of the pipes rating