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help with bumper please

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:01 pm
by c11man
i am almost done building a 4inch piston with 3inch porting valve. the piston is a 3inch coulpler modded to fit very nicely inside of a 4inch pipe. i am still waiting to get my vent valve so i have not tested the valve yet. the vent valve will be HUGE compared to the standard for piston cannon providing aproxametly 4times the flow of a 3/4 inch sprinkler valve so i am expecting the piston to be MOVING! I was just wondering if my bumper is enough. it is a 3/4inch thick of this blue foam stuff that i think is used for around a houses foundation. here is a pic of the cannon

http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv32 ... 0_8210.jpg

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:17 pm
by jmeyer1022
If its what I'm thinking it is, it should be fine. Best of luck can't wait till you test it.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:19 pm
by psycix
If it is squishy, but not too soft to be pressed completely flat with a low force, then it will be okay.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:25 pm
by c11man
one more question

if i attach the bumper to the rear of the piston it would work right?

if i couldnt then i would have to cut a hole out of the center of it and i already think that it might be too soft

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:36 pm
by psycix
-Yes.
-You would indeed have to make way for the pilot opening.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:44 pm
by Gippeto
Is this what you're thinking of using?

http://www.ujr.ca/EN/dow_sm.htm

Might work for the short term, but I think you'll have to keep changing it as it gets beat up.

For bumper material selection, I use a simple, "low tech" testing method.

I hit it with a hammer. :shock:

If the material survives, and returns to its original shape, I'll consider it useable.

Check your local dollar store for "viable" materials. (silicone bake ware, mouse pad, etc.)

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:00 pm
by sandman
well, if its the foam i think it is, its Styrofoan, which is not squishy, as if to say it will compress but not spring back up

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:08 pm
by c11man
this is NOT sryrofoam and it IS squishy. i will go do a hammer test soon. if it fails what do you guys suggest as a bumper?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:33 pm
by c11man
FAIL!!!

well that was not good
did good for like first 2 hits then it started tearing and just went down hill

now i REALY need ideas for a bumper! PLEASE HELP ME!!!

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:34 pm
by Gippeto
Gippeto wrote:Check your local dollar store for "viable" materials. (silicone bake ware, mouse pad, etc.)

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:41 pm
by jonnyboy
Half of a nerf football.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:49 pm
by c11man
thanks for the ideas

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:17 pm
by c11man
i found a good material for a bumper and it is this 3/4in thick wrist support that you are supposed to put infront of your keyboard. did the hammer test and it held up great. so once i get my new sealing face i will glue it onto the back of the piston

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:24 pm
by SEAKING9006
Same stuff as mousepads. You owe gippeto some thank-yous. :roll:

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:09 pm
by c11man
thanks gippeto 8)
it is like mouse pads except it is like 4~5 times thicker and a little stiffer and heavier. only thing is that it is not quite 4inches wide its more like 3 so i just glued a little strip on the sid so it is a full circle