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Stungun on 18v?
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:55 pm
by biggsauce
I'm running my chamber fan on 18v (2 9v in series) and I would like to someday add a stungun to my cannon. I also want to try to run both the fan and stungun off just the two batteries. But 18v will damage the stungun right?
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:06 pm
by hi
i have a stungun that works off of 2 9 volt batteries. i think its easier and safer to have them have their own power source.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:25 pm
by jimmy101
A 9V stungun will probably fry itself at 18V
Simple solution, take a voltage tap between the two 9V batteries. Use the 9V for the stungun and the 18V for the fan.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:30 pm
by biggsauce
jimmy... thanks. I didn't even think of that.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:45 pm
by Spudgun on Crack
No, don't try to run it at 18v.
Take a camera circuit for example if you go over 3-3.5v the transistor frys, thats what will happen with the stun gun.
You could replace the transistor inside with something that could take more but there is a limit. Eventually the insulation on the transformer inside won't be enough and you will have internal arcing.
I suggest that you just stick with the stun gun at the voltage that it was made for instead of risking its destruction.
You could also rebuild it using the original transformer, using a 555 timer and a large transistor, you could run it at a high voltage but once again it will eventually cause internal arcing.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:59 pm
by biggsauce
Spudgun on Crack wrote:No, don't try to run it at 18v.
Take a camera circuit for example if you go over 3-3.5v the transistor frys, thats what will happen with the stun gun.
You could replace the transistor inside with something that could take more but there is a limit. Eventually the insulation on the transformer inside won't be enough and you will have internal arcing.
I suggest that you just stick with the stun gun at the voltage that it was made for instead of risking its destruction.
You could also rebuild it using the original transformer, using a 555 timer and a large transistor, you could run it at a high voltage but once again it will eventually cause internal arcing.
I appreciate the advice, but jimmy's idea is simplae, and I love simple.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:12 pm
by BigGrib
for optimum battery life i would run the stun gun off of it's own battery, and for the fact that if you are like me you run your fan during ignition, you are going to draw power away from both the stun gun and the fan during ignition and you wont get near as hot of a spark.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:21 pm
by biggsauce
I don't plan to run the fan during ignition, so no problem there. I just want to stick with two 9v to keep cost down. I just wish I could find my second battery pack so I can recharge instead of buying tose damn things...
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:03 pm
by mark.f
BigGrib, I doubt the chamber fan and the stungun combined will draw enough current at 9 and 18 v respectively to alter the output of the stungun. If the batteries can't provide enough current, he can wire some more in parallel to counter this as well.
I say you just keep it simple and run the stungun off it's own battery, or use jimmy's idea.
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:50 pm
by biggsauce
Yeah I'll be going with jimmy's idea, its better for my application anyway
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:57 pm
by starman
biggsauce wrote:I don't plan to run the fan during ignition, so no problem there. I just want to stick with two 9v to keep cost down. I just wish I could find my second battery pack so I can recharge instead of buying tose damn things...
You should consider letting the fan run during ignition. Makes a noticable performance difference!!
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:26 am
by biggsauce
starman wrote:biggsauce wrote:I don't plan to run the fan during ignition, so no problem there. I just want to stick with two 9v to keep cost down. I just wish I could find my second battery pack so I can recharge instead of buying tose damn things...
You should consider letting the fan run during ignition. Makes a noticable performance difference!!
Does the performance increase have to do with the turbulence presented by the fan? Or am I off on this?
(I've been reading some articles about DDT and I'm looking for more information, so if anyone has any links they found helpful, feel free to shoot em my way..)
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:47 am
by starman
biggsauce wrote:starman wrote:biggsauce wrote:I don't plan to run the fan during ignition, so no problem there. I just want to stick with two 9v to keep cost down. I just wish I could find my second battery pack so I can recharge instead of buying tose damn things...
You should consider letting the fan run during ignition. Makes a noticable performance difference!!
Does the performance increase have to do with the turbulence presented by the fan? Or am I off on this?
Yep, the fan represents your turbulence induction. The same fan is then used to intake fresh air into the chamber. It's not unusual that I just leave the fan running during an extended shooting session. One reason I'm moving to RC rechargable batteries on my next guns...9v batts good for onesie and twosie shooting.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:18 am
by biggsauce
9v batts good for onesie and twosie shooting.
You mean you're getting one or two shots off the batteries?
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:21 am
by mark.f
I use to run my combustion fans on the PPC 600 and 1000 (way back a long time ago, never posted them on Spudfiles) off a single 9v battery, and I hardly ever had to change the battery.