Capacitor ?

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Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:01 pm

Did anyone already tryed to make a capacitor bb/paintball gun? I just blew up mine and i has some pretty impressive POW !

Let me tell you how(lol): I was setting a 5 volts regulator for my pic microcontroller, but to clean the signal i was using either too low volt rated capacitor or too high wall mounted power adaptor( 24 volts output)... and the capacitor was not in the right polarity...

When i pluged the adaptor, nothing appened first because there was a bad contact, but when i shaked my breadboard, i heard "VIIIIIIIII" and i was like "Holy ****" (i knew that there was a short circuit). when i hurried to my adaptor, KA POW! The capacitor burst disk failed ( yes, there is one ) and my hears started whistling...

Just to give you an idea of its power:



There are 6 mm capacitor so you can just glue an airsoft on an put it in a barrel.

For who dont know, you can get very high voltages from a bigger capacitor (minimum 3000 uf) to make it blow up(the tinier one), only charged by a 9 volt battery(takes 5 secs)

Dont count on me to try that, i am out of spudguning.

What do you think?



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Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:09 am

Seems like a nifty idea to try if you have alot of spare capacitors lying around, but it doesn't seem very powerful.

Still, I can see the entertainment value of a fully automatic cap launcher :P
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:40 pm

Electrolytic capacitors have an electrolyte in them (surprise). When the polarity or voltage causes a failure, the electrolyte overheats. This causes steam. This is just a steam explosion.

Small capacitors don't have a rupture disk. They have a rubber seal and will often blow the rubber plug resulting in ejection of the aluminum can. Larger ones that are used in power supply and higher power applications are more likely to have enough power applied to cause a steam explosion. These have a rupture pattern embossed into the top of the aluminum can so the top of the can bursts instead of launching the capacitor off the leads.

This article goes into the chemistry in the capacitors so you know what you are exposed to when these rupture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor
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Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:48 pm

larger capacitor's also have rubber vent type holes, and the steam leaks through there sometimes.
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:49 pm

At high enough voltages and currents the whole thing will pretty much deflagrate (burn), especially non-electrolytic types.

Same with small wattage resistors. They make great ghetto squibs for pyrotechnics.
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Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:11 pm

I remember it was either a physics or more likely an electronics class where the teacher was demonstrating polarised electrolytics charged in reverse since charging them the right way round wasn't all that interesting.


Fun stuff unless you get some of that gloop on you. On which note I'd say blown caps would be a ghastly propellant.
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:43 pm

When i accidently blew up my capacitor(100 uf), the metal failed, not the rubber...
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:56 pm

Demon wrote:When i accidently blew up my capacitor(100 uf), the metal failed, not the rubber...
Metal vaporizes from over current, such as shorts, internal arc, etc. Overvoltage, reverse polarity, AC, etc often results in electrolyte overheating resulting in steam explosions.
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:30 pm

I think Demon means the scored burst pattern in the cap blew instead of the rubber plug.
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Hotwired wrote:I think Demon means the scored burst pattern in the cap blew instead of the rubber plug.
Most likely correct. Some cheap ones are not scored and either eject the entire case or blow out the end. In relation to other projectile propulsion methods, this is very expensive and requires plenty of electrical power to generate the steam. The power is limited as most are designed to fail gently at relatively lower pressures. The amount of moisture is limited so even if it fails at higher pressure, the steam expansion is limited. The cap being removed by steam is spectacular, but overall, it's not great for launching stuff other than the cap itself.
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