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Ignition system and place on a combustion cannon
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:34 pm
by RJB INDUSTRIES
Hi everyone!
where is the place, where the ignition will work on with maximum quality?
the picture show you one simple pvc structure that i am using to make experiments like discover where i may put the ignition...
RJB INDUSTRIES
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:38 pm
by jsefcik
First what kind of fittings are you using????
cpvc???
what kind of ignition are you using?
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:03 pm
by mattyzip77
On all of my combustions, I placed my ignitor near the bottom of the chamber. Never had a problem.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:06 pm
by MrCrowley
I think it is still recommended by most members to place the igniter in the middle of the chamber. This will create two flame fronts upon ignition which speeds up combustion of the fuel.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:08 pm
by warhead052
jsefcik wrote:First what kind of fittings are you using????
cpvc???
what kind of ignition are you using?
Hey, read the names of the picture...
RJB, try in the center, but with a spark strip. That would be, in my opinion the best spot.
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:19 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
MrCrowley wrote:This will create two flame fronts upon ignition which speeds up combustion of the fuel.
See it in action w0000! 
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:56 pm
by RJB INDUSTRIES
ok, i have placed de electric ignition in the center also... See you...
RJB INDUSTRIES
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:49 pm
by wyz2285
two ignition spark? one in the front one in the back
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:05 am
by RJB INDUSTRIES
hello. Having a fan inside the chamber, mixing de gas with the air, would i have a good explosion what ever the position of the gun?
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:08 am
by Crna Legija
RJB INDUSTRIES wrote:a good explosion
I hope not
Fans help but more importantly you need to get the fuel ratios right
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:37 am
by RJB INDUSTRIES
The concentration of fuel, gas, will be always in the right place to fire? In near the terminals of the ignition system...?
Because I want to turn on the ignition and have, at same time the explosion... My doubt is if you point the cannon to the sky, you will have the explosion? Because butane has twice the mass of the air and my bolts, ignitors, are in the center of the chamber, and the gas maybe will be deposit on the PVC cape... I mean not around the ignitors...and i am not sure if like this it will fire...
A fan resolve this problem?
(the fuel ratio is very nice)
RJB INDUSTRIES
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:44 am
by jimmy101
Yes, the fan insures that the fuel + air is well mixed.
Propane is a bit heavier than air (44 vs 28 and 32) but given enough time it will fully diffuse through the chamber. After several minutes the mixture will be uniform. But most spudders aren't patient enough to wait that long after fueling. A fan will equilibrate the mixture in a couple seconds.
And, the fan will increase the burn rate of the fuel somewhat, so leave it running during firing.
And, the fan can help with airing out the chamber between shots.