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Okay, so today I attempted to make some rough plans for my airsoft Browning 1919 BBMG in Paint. Please excuse the cruddy diagram, I was trying my best, but there's only so much quality you can get with Microsoft Paint. On the far right, there will be an air blower valve thing disguised as a trigger. I am employing the vortex cap method, so I need to know if a skirt is necessary. I'm going to use a 1" PVC cap, and the pink worm-looking thing is just some hose. Please feel free to correct my work. In fact, I would encourage you to do so. I'm really itching to start this project.

Thanks,
Ofthelion

P.S. (The CO2 tank is just a 20oz. paintball tank)

That bb chamber looks enormous. It's way too big for enough pressure to build up and there is a ton of room for agitation. Make the chamber way smaller. Just use a smaller piece of pipe and put it inside the ammo can.

So the ammo chamber has to actually be airtight? I was under the impression that it just held bbs to be sucked into the votex...

Of course it has to be airtight, it holds the pressure that pushes the ammo... Do you ever see a proper vortex with a chamber that's not airtight?

I thought there was a spring that pushed the ammo to the front, towards the vortex block... sorry, I was mistaken. *Facepalm*

Forgive me if I've missed something here but, where are you triggering it from?

cammyd32 wrote:where are you triggering it from?

n the far right, there will be an air blower valve thing disguised as a trigger

I can swear that wasn't there when I read it through the first time

Not a problem... So I should probably use a section of maybe 3" PVC pipe for holding the ammo instead of just letting it sit there?

OfTheLion wrote:So I should probably use a section of maybe 3" PVC pipe for holding the ammo instead of just letting it sit there?

A rectangular chamber that will be subjected to pressure is an extremely bad idea, so yeah, some sort of pipe hidden inside a box.

I had done something similar.

Wow jsr, that's pretty slick looking. I'd love to see some pics when (if) you do make a plywood shell for it.

My only problem is that there is so little space in the reciever, and I already have pretty much everything destined to fit in there. I know that the PVC in the mag doesn't hold ammo, but that was kind of what I was aiming for, except one big pipe on the side of the gun... Like this: (Inside the ammo can)

OfTheLion wrote:Wow jsr, that's pretty slick looking. I'd love to see some pics when (if) you do make a plywood shell for it.

I made that in 2005, it's on the top of a wardrobe looking pretty much like that last photo but with more dust

My only problem is that there is so little space in the reciever, and I already have pretty much everything destined to fit in there. I know that the PVC in the mag doesn't hold ammo, but that was kind of what I was aiming for, except one big pipe on the side of the gun... Like this: (Inside the ammo can)

I would be more inclined to have the gas supply in the ammo box, and BBs in the receiver.

I think you'll find this interesting and inspirational

I think you'll find this interesting and inspirational

One word: Beautiful

I do agree, that was my first inclination, BBs in the reciever and CO2 in the ammo can. The only problem I found while researching this is that when a CO2 canister is operated laying sideways, it will spray liquid CO2 into the internals of the gun. Now, I could get an anti-siphon tank to solve this, but I found some really low-cost 20oz. tanks, and I'm going to buy three to change quickly should I run out at a game. But if I'm mistaken and you can use CO2 tanks in a horizontal orientation, I would be all set... By no means do I have any experience with this at all... which is why I appreciate the input from you guys so much.

You will be best off using an anti-siphon system. I've had to install them for myself and other while playing paintball and the difference is immediately noticeable.

A CO2 tank in the vertical position would still be ideal however, but that's not going to fit into your aesthetic limitations.

mobile chernobyl wrote:You will be best off using an anti-siphon system. I've had to install them for myself and other while playing paintball and the difference is immediately noticeable.

So how easy is it to install an anti-siphon system on a 20oz. tank?

I'm a real stickler for aesthetics, hoses sticking out would annoy the crap out of me.
It'd probably be way easier to stuff an actual gearbox in the receiver like Killbucket: http://www.air-sharp.com/351series3.htm
But what fun would that be? :tongue3: