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				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:43 pm
				by pat123
				HCMP
hybrid and combustion metering for propane
I know it is basic but I had problems with this and it should help people with hybrid fueling.
tell me if you like it
edit: now has propane, butane, and mapp
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:46 pm
				by Counterstriker
				Picture not working for me.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:47 pm
				by bigbob12345
				this is really well done and completely accurate
I like it a lot, will give me a break from that calculator for a while 
counterstriker:it is a fuel and meter calculator, just pres the download button 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:55 pm
				by pat123
				Thanks it only took about 5 minutes to make. I am going to add some more stuff to it soon.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:56 pm
				by daberno123
				Very Nice!
Easy, simple, and user-friendly.  A lot less confusing than other calculators I've tried to use.  Good work!
Edit: what else are you planning to add?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:21 pm
				by pat123
				a way to find chamber and barrel volume. Do guys see anything else that I should add? I updated it a little, I'll post the new version tomorrow.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:16 pm
				by jon_89
				This is great.  Quick question though.  A 1x mix is just regular combustion right?  I would suggest maybe doing half mixes like 2.5x or 3.5x mix because I see many people doing this.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:31 pm
				by MrCrowley
				Cool bananas, will test it soon 
Edit: Just noticed the equation uses .953, now I could be wrong here, but glancing over SB15's topic, which I think you based this off, he used .958 for propane...
There's probably some crystal clear explanation I just looked over. 
 
Oh and I also made a second sheet for MAPP gas, as i'll probably be using that.
Thanks 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:43 pm
				by SpudUke5
				I got slightly different results:
For 100 ci chamber
25 ci volume of pressure meter.
My program:
For 3x, i got 7.73 psi
For 4x, i got 10.3 psi
Your program:
3x i got 8.69 psi
4x i got 11.59 psi
Just slightly off but i could make a big difference.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:57 pm
				by starman
				Your calculator predicted a little high on mine too, 74 psi. I predicted and have been using 63 PSI. 225 CI chamber, 2.2 CI meter. My calc may be wrong, I'll check mine again.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:22 pm
				by pat123
				I just uploaded a new version.
Edit: Just noticed the equation uses .953, now I could be wrong here, but glancing over SB15's topic, which I think you based this off, he used .958 for propane... 
thanks i just changed that. by the way thanks to SB15 for all of the formulas in the first place
This is great. Quick question though. A 1x mix is just regular combustion right? I would suggest maybe doing half mixes like 2.5x or 3.5x mix because I see many people doing this.
yep 1x is normal combustion. I'll add those too.
Oh and I also made a second sheet for MAPP gas, as i'll probably be using that. 
If you don't mind giving it to me Ill add that to it too.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:36 pm
				by Hubb
				This thread reminds me.  I need to update my CO2 calculator thread.
Pat, if you want, I can send you a copy of mine so you can add to this.  I posted the original a while back, but I have since made updates to it, including more accurate CO2 data, as well as high pressured air data.  If you're interested in throwing in a little pneumatics with this, just let me know.
Oh, and have you considered adding butane to your spreadsheet.  A lot of members use it, too.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:41 pm
				by daberno123
				Just downloaded the newer copy. Only complaint is the yellow background...my eyes...they burn.
Oh and you should definitely make different sheets for different fuels
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:46 pm
				by pat123
				I'll take co2, air, butane, etc. just need a new name.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:00 pm
				by pat123
				I updated it now it works for mapp, propane, and butane. I need someone to check over it and make sure it is right for butane and mapp gas.