EHVH Mk 1-(warning large pictures)

Harness the power of precision mixtures of pressurized flammable vapor. Safety first! These are advanced potato guns - not for the beginner.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:23 pm

aaron1225 wrote:you should grind down those corners
I should not.
The flat edge holds it straight and works as a base.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:37 am

Just to be safe I'd MIG weld everything. Just to be safe. Other than that use a remote detonator and be careful with the spark plugs.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:23 pm

Did you read the entire topic Twitch? :P
The whole thing is MIG welded.

And what mixes do you plan on taking it to frank? It looks like it could take 20x easily.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:17 pm

Thats exactly what I have in mind.
Or atleast to the highest mix I can take it too with my air compressor
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:46 pm

With everything accounted for, assuming excellent fueling techniques, 20x would be about 290 psi preignition. That must be one impressive compressor. If you have a normal compressor however, you could pressurise a tank with a homemade high pressure pump for the air source. Either that, or a regged HPA tank, but I think the first option would be cheaper.
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Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:52 pm

DYI wrote:With everything accounted for, assuming excellent fueling techniques, 20x would be about 290 psi preignition. That must be one impressive compressor. If you have a normal compressor however, you could pressurise a tank with a homemade high pressure pump for the air source. Either that, or a regged HPA tank, but I think the first option would be cheaper.
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DYI wrote:With everything accounted for, assuming excellent fueling techniques, 20x would be about 290 psi preignition. That must be one impressive compressor. If you have a normal compressor however, you could pressurise a tank with a homemade high pressure pump for the air source. Either that, or a regged HPA tank, but I think the first option would be cheaper.


Ok, i know that propane CAN start to turn liquid at around 90psi, having said that i have fueled my mini hybrid to 90psi with no troubles.
My question is this- at 290psi what is the chance of non-liquification?

Btw, great idea with the pre-pressurised tank DYI, i was looking for a simple way to pressurise hybrids in the field.
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:42 am

would keeping the chamber warm or cold, can never remember reduce the chances of liquification?
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Due to the low propane:air ratio, I'm pretty sure that partial pressure would stop the propane from liquifying at any easily achievable mix. I don't know for sure though. I do know that a 20x mix would be really impressive.
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:41 am

Some say that because of partial pressures, the propane will not liquefy in a propane:air mixture past 90 PSIG. They say it will take around 2,143 PSIG to liquefy it in a 4.2% mix. Don't know that for a fact, though.
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:08 am

Assuming that the pressure in a propane tank is around 110 psig, the limit imposed by that is a 183x mix, which would equate to ~2790 psig.
If we also assume that the partial pressure argument is correct (which I suspect it is, due to _Fnord's 11x tests), then it seems as though about 141x is the limit. I wonder what kind of pressure a 100x mix would generate?
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:12 am

more than id want to be within a mile of :shock:
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:15 am

I'm guessing over 10kpsi in adiabatic conditions. Dammit, now you've got me wanting to build a 20x oxy/MAPP hybrid...
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:02 am

^thank god your on a different continent to me :lol:
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