9mm SMG project + other HPA BBMG experimentation
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General advice on purchasing, here it is in more detail
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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I just threw together one out of completely standard parts. It's not semi automatic Yet, but it works single shot and the detent is great. I think I can get semi auto if I just get a compression tee.
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... and it looks fantastic! Great job, is it 3/8" bore too? You should definitely add a tee magLockednloaded wrote:I just threw together one out of completely standard parts
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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.4 ID barrel, .38 caliber slingshot ammo. I ordered a 1/4" male fitting X 1/2" compression X 1/2" compression. I'll probably use a sten style spring tube mag
Also you should know, it's not popping at as high of pressures as yours did, I think my BBs pop around 200 psi with my heat-shrink-tubing-detent
Also you should know, it's not popping at as high of pressures as yours did, I think my BBs pop around 200 psi with my heat-shrink-tubing-detent
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Upped the popping pressure with the addition of an actual o-ring seal. I could technically make it a .38 cal BBMG, but I couldnt afford the air or the ammo
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Sexeh! Single shot then? We need some damage pics, I'll wager it can put a 3/8" breaing through quite a lot...
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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It definitely sounds like it's not popping as high as it can, I'm not sure if it's the video not conveying it well but mine was pretty deafening.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Well mine has a longer barrel that ports into the sch80 sleeve, but also, I don't use continuous air to trigger the detent. I depress the pin valve on the tank just enough to barely let air flow. As I'm loading the pressure builds up to full. I then open the valve and a short burst of air is released so that I don't waste gas.
I doubt it is popping anywhere near 800psi, but as you can see, it went clear through that wood like it was cardboard, so I'm pleased with the results for now. The best part is that changing the power is as easy as a quarter turn of the compression fitting
I doubt it is popping anywhere near 800psi, but as you can see, it went clear through that wood like it was cardboard, so I'm pleased with the results for now. The best part is that changing the power is as easy as a quarter turn of the compression fitting
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Still single shot though right?Lockednloaded wrote:Well mine has a longer barrel that ports into the sch80 sleeve, but also, I don't use continuous air to trigger the detent. I depress the pin valve on the tank just enough to barely let air flow. As I'm loading the pressure builds up to full. I then open the valve and a short burst of air is released so that I don't waste gas.
Detents FTW A detent+interrupter prototype is imminent, just trying to figure out the best configuration which will be both reliable and easy to machine.The best part is that changing the power is as easy as a quarter turn of the compression fitting
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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For the time being, I'd have a hard time shooting a semi-auto with this sort of power too often. I may add a mag at some point, but it's not one of my priorities at the moment. I really wanted a powerful, accurate, self-contained gun. I mean who doesn't?
The old JSR would've been three prototypes deep already, has the machinery changed you?Detents FTW A detent+interrupter prototype is imminent, just trying to figure out the best configuration which will be both reliable and easy to machine.
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Fair point, to be honest that's the reason I stopped developing mine further - at this sort of power levels 3/8" bearings quickly become "single use" and I haven't found a local source.Lockednloaded wrote:For the time being, I'd have a hard time shooting a semi-auto with this sort of power too often.
True, it does change the way you think - since machining is more time consuming than slapping together some bits with epoxy and doing something else while it cures, there's a much bigger incentive for designing it well and "getting it right the first time".The old JSR would've been three prototypes deep already, has the machinery changed you?
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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So.. you understand why my pnuschnikov project never got finished.I depress the pin valve on the tank just enough to barely let air flow. As I'm loading the pressure builds up to full. I then open the valve and a short burst of air is released so that I don't waste gas.
Although air is free for me, I had to store it in a large CO2 fire extinguisher..and:
Me too.So the extinguisher bit was a problem.I really wanted a powerful, accurate, self-contained gun. I mean who doesn't?
This, and the wasting of ammo on a large scale like JSR mentioned seem to be the real issues one runs into when building full auto or even semi cannons.
This makes the design part fun but then you are left with a cannon you're not really going to use.
Maybe just show it to a few friends and that's it.
So I get the single shot thing completely.
The launcher looks like a million bucks!
Have fun with it!
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Oh my friggin god stop being so awesome, that thing is pure kick ass. Most innovative and creative pneumatic that the files have ever come by!
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Oh my friggin god stop being so awesome, that thing is pure kick ass. Most innovative and creative pneumatic that the files have ever come by!
Can't ask for a better compliment!!