Pneumatic Pen-gun Project
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Well, I guess that brings our debate over small launchers to a new level. Well played jack, well played.
I've been toying with the idea of making a pen sized minipump, but now that there is already a pen gun I'll have to complete my other mini idea before I can get around to a pen gun.
Nice work. Hope you don't get lead poisoning from having lead pellets all over your house.
I've been toying with the idea of making a pen sized minipump, but now that there is already a pen gun I'll have to complete my other mini idea before I can get around to a pen gun.
Nice work. Hope you don't get lead poisoning from having lead pellets all over your house.
I'm using a presta in mine at 240psi and I'm likely to be using it at 300psi too when I get hold of the right kind of pump.jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Thanks very logical suggestion... though can a presta handle the sort of pressures I'm likely to subject it to?Nice work, looks good. Have you considered using a presta valve instead of a schrader? You don't need a pin to depress a presta stem.
What are you using to get 400psi?
Wow... this is truly a tiny cannon!
I build a cannon which fit inside of a pen tube once... but it was just a .177 tube that I blew into to fire spitballs ... nonetheless, it was accurate and looked EXACTLY like a regular pen (the internals of the pen were the ramrod!), and my english class never knew what hit them (well I guess they did after a while...)
I can't BELIEVE you were able to fiddle around with such small parts! I get annoyed having to fix my 1" porting piston valves 8)
I build a cannon which fit inside of a pen tube once... but it was just a .177 tube that I blew into to fire spitballs ... nonetheless, it was accurate and looked EXACTLY like a regular pen (the internals of the pen were the ramrod!), and my english class never knew what hit them (well I guess they did after a while...)
I can't BELIEVE you were able to fiddle around with such small parts! I get annoyed having to fix my 1" porting piston valves 8)
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That is truly a feat of microengineering! This thing must be so much fun to play with. I wish I could build a mini this small! Keep it up man...
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That is an incredible design.
Will it shoot through cardboard? plastic? kevlar?
The smallest gun I made was also the size of a pen, but it was a semi-auto bbg powered by a rubber band.(I think It was back around 01')
I took it on a 3-day class trip, where I shared a hotel room with three other people. There were soo many bbs in the carpet by the end of the trip, it took forever to find them all.
..But just wait till I make my next mini. It will use a single carbon nanotube with a graphite burstdisk as a chamber/barrel, along with a molecular valve to be injected with hydrogen atoms. I plan on shooting buckeyballs with it.
Ok, Im jk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckeyball
Will it shoot through cardboard? plastic? kevlar?
The smallest gun I made was also the size of a pen, but it was a semi-auto bbg powered by a rubber band.(I think It was back around 01')
I took it on a 3-day class trip, where I shared a hotel room with three other people. There were soo many bbs in the carpet by the end of the trip, it took forever to find them all.
..But just wait till I make my next mini. It will use a single carbon nanotube with a graphite burstdisk as a chamber/barrel, along with a molecular valve to be injected with hydrogen atoms. I plan on shooting buckeyballs with it.
Ok, Im jk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckeyball
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I might just make one of these myself...
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Thank you all for the feedback
the 400 psi figure is assumed, gauge only reads till 300 (for spartaaa!) but I keep on pumping until the needle hits the stop (see attachment)
The parts are available from any hobby shop, and I didn't use any complicated tools - mostly a hacksaw, sandpaper, and an electric drill clamped in a vice as an improvised latheYou've inspired me! Now I have no choice but to make one. Thanks a lot...
Thats mostly a risk from handling the pellets, I always wash my hands after Besides, the impact energies aren't sufficient to give off too much dust.Hope you don't get lead poisoning from having lead pellets all over your house.
Good to know, though I think I'll stay with the schrader for this one, don't feel like hacking it up. This is the pump I have:I'm using a presta in mine at 240psi and I'm likely to be using it at 300psi too when I get hold of the right kind of pump.
What are you using to get 400psi?
the 400 psi figure is assumed, gauge only reads till 300 (for spartaaa!) but I keep on pumping until the needle hits the stop (see attachment)
Don't try making a check valve out of lighter bits thenI can't BELIEVE you were able to fiddle around with such small parts! I get annoyed having to fix my 1" porting piston valves
At 200 psi, it won't make it through a top of a pizza box. However, for such a small chamber, short barrel and tiny projectile, I wasn't expecting much better. Still waiting for the courage to take it to 400 psi again though heheWill it shoot through cardboard? plastic? kevlar?
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Lol I think its hilarious that we are complimenting a gun that won't shoot through cardboard at 200psi
This is a truly amazing gun though, I always wanted somone to make a mini coaxial, but I never imagined anyone would be able to make one THIS small. Have you tried a barrel load of water yet???
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This is a truly amazing gun though, I always wanted somone to make a mini coaxial, but I never imagined anyone would be able to make one THIS small. Have you tried a barrel load of water yet???
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I know, I know, I'm almost ashamed, after all I routinely hit 1,000 fps with my 6mm coaxials. Now that I have the contest entry covered though I might be tempted to test it to destruction, as far as high pressure goes this is by far the easiest chamber to pump I've ever madeInsomniac wrote:Lol I think its hilarious that we are complimenting a gun that wont shoot through cardboard at 200psi
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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I like it, kinda has that James Bond\Q look! My only question is how is the guts held in?
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That is briliant, I have been looking at this for a couple hours on and off and thinking, wow, this guy is just crazy.
Nice, job, you make something complicated and make ist so simple.
now, for me to do a less than mini coaxial, with1" chamber and .177 barrel.
Over sized barrel, but I can make pistons easily for that size.
Nice, job, you make something complicated and make ist so simple.
now, for me to do a less than mini coaxial, with1" chamber and .177 barrel.
Over sized barrel, but I can make pistons easily for that size.
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Not just in the movies, the KGB have a pen gun that comes complete with a silencer for covert work... Also, Georgi Markov was assasinated using a similar compressed air device hidden in an umbrella that fired a 2mm pellet laced with poison.I like it, kinda has that James Bond\Q look!
My only question is how are the guts held in?
Araldite, a close third after duct tape and rubber bands when it comes to keeping the world together I normally use proper high-strength marine epoxy like this stuff in my projects but given the scale of this particular build, Araldite was enough - plus it takes much less time to cure meaning less anxious jumping around before I can test it
Thanks My suggestion if building on a small scale is make an overengineered small chamber and get yourself a high pressure pump, it's the only way to get good performance with small calibers.Nice, job, you make something complicated and make ist so simple.
now, for me to do a less than mini coaxial, with1" chamber and .177 barrel.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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You should make a cane gun like this.