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When I say high power, I mean it. I put one through my sheet rock and had to tell my parents I put a tack in the wall to hang a poster instead of tape. And my trigger failed for it and my brother walked past the barrel just as it failed, and it shot him in the back... No pictures, I can't afford to lose over $300 worth of parts in my room.

On to what I need to know, is there any way to tone this down without losing too much power? I still need to be able to shoot this, just with out my parents thinking its super powerful and I need to get rid of all my pneumatics/combustions/hybrids. So, any suggestions? I have thought about limiting flow, but at the same time I want to use this as an airsoft rifle, but dip the ends of q tips in wax to give them weight to fly further.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:54 am

How are we supposed to give you advice without knowing what it is :lol:
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:58 am

Hammer valve, with a .24 ID 3 foot barrel. Its charged to 90 psi and a 2-6 psi drop in pressure every time I fire, so it lasts a long time. I get about 100 shots from full to empty.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:08 am

is there any way to tone this down without losing too much power?
Do you mean noise wise?
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:32 am

could you lower the strength of the spring on the hammer valve?
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:32 am

Well, to make it look alot less powerful when its shooting. I suppose what I need to do is make it sound more like a blowgun (a lung powered blow gun) rather than a bang, and make the aesthetics look like a toy gun. I sense a trip to the dollar store soon...
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:39 am

pneumaticcannons wrote:could you lower the strength of the spring on the hammer valve?
That would make it more powerful.

Warhead, less power on the hammer, less pressure...
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:40 am

Ok, I will try that. I also have some epoxy that is almost done curing for a silencer for the barrel, so I will drill the hole and try that as well.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:43 am

Why don't you post some pictures? i'd like to see what you're building :)
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Well, I actually kind of already have pictures up, but not in this thread. Remember my vortex cap? Its that FE as the chamber and valve, with a extension spring attached to the handle, and the barrel is attached to the output. All of it is put in side my mauser stock from my sprinkler valve gun.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:25 pm

warhead052 wrote:...my brother walked past the barrel just as it failed, and it shot him in the back...
Knowing the teenage mind...I USED to be one you know. :wink: I find that story more than a little...dubious.

You can reduce the power output by ;

reducing the striker mass

reducing striker spring preload / increasing valve spring preload

reducing striker travel (lengthening the valve stem has this same effect)

introducing a restriction between the valve and barrel (transfer port)

shortening the barrel
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:29 pm

Thanks for the help so far, managed to make it really quiet and I don't have to worry about holes or anything. Now I need to make this fly really far.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:34 pm

What is your hammer mech?
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:57 pm

If doing "one thing" slows it down....might not doing that "thing" the "opposite way" have the opposite effect?


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Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:17 pm

Yeah I kinda learned that Gippeto... Didn't mean to, like I said. Trigger failed. The sear ended up breaking, and it triggered the gun.

Gun freak, it is kinda hard to explain, I just pull the top of the FE valve handle up, and hook it onto a sear, and then pull the trigger which pushes the sear and then releases the Fe handle smashing it into the valve releasing air. It works pretty well. I will try to get some pictures, but I may not be able to.
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